Ontario’s failure over subsidized wind, solar, biomass energy glut

Marc Patrone kindly had me on his show on Sauga 960 AM once again today (March 30, 2021) and we discussed the costs of the Ontario Liberal follies during the McGuinty/Wynne era! Our chat was about the amount of money it cost us in 2020 for renewables (both transmission and distribution connected) and we also touched on other issues such as the Line 5 pipeline and its possible shutdown. Along the way we had a few chuckles over the mess we still have and the Ford government’s inability to do anything about the electricity sector other than saddle taxpayers with a big chunk of the costs. Have a listen to the podcast starting at 43:50 here:

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Wind, Solar and Biomass Continue Soaking Ontarians

The OEB just released the “Ontario’s System-Wide Electricity Supply Mix: 2020 Data” report and it provides information beyond what the IESO had in their mid-January report: the 2020 Year in Review  and the subject of an earlier article.  The OEB report includes generation occurring within the DX (distributor connected) sector in addition to what is TX (transmission connected)* generated and the basis of the IESO report. 

The OEB reported DX generated electricity in 2020 was 7.3 TWh (terawatt hours) or about what 810,000 average Ontario households (approximately 18% of all Ontario households) would consume in one year. DX generation in 2020 was up by 5 GWh (Gigawatt hours) compared to 2019 but the increase came from what is described as “Non-contracted” generation defined in the report as “a variety of fuel types that the IESO is unable to categorize due to a lack of information from Local Distribution Companies (LDCs).”

As it happens the three renewables classified as wind, solar and biomass actually had a decline in DX generation falling from 5.1 TWh in 2019 to 4.9 TWh with solar producing an identical 3 TWh compared to 2019, while wind declined from 1.7 TWh to 1.6 TWh and biomass from 4 GWh to 3 GWh.  If one adds what IESO stated was curtailed wind of 2.6 TWh in 2020 to what those three renewables generated it comes to 20.6 TWh or 2 GWh more than our gross exports were! 

Those exports** of 20.4 TWh (sold at an average price of $13.9*** million per TW) generated about $284 million. That’s $3.8 billion less than we paid for them had they consisted of the three renewables.  The latter is derived from the individual costs of wind at $135 million/TWh accepted, plus $120 million/TWh for curtailed wind which collectively cost us $2.3 billion.  Adding solar’s 3.8 TWh at $449 million/TWh  ($1.7 billion) and biomass at $150 million/TWh ($100 million) brings the costs of all three renewables to $4.1 billion. If all of those renewables were exported, they would have returned the estimated $284 million as noted costing Ontario ratepayers $3.8 billion.

What that means is; as ratepayers pick up the loss of the $3.8 billion it would represent a cost of 2.72 cents/kWh or $244.80 to the average household consuming 9,000 kWh annually. The annual cost would be much higher for small and medium sized businesses.

In Ontario we continue to suffer from the perils of the McGuinty/Wynne push for renewable energy brought to us via the GEA. It appears we will continue to suffer the consequences until those outrageous 20 year contracts for wind and solar expire or the Ford led government is inspired to actually do something to correct the Liberal endowment!

*The OPG’s annual report disclosed they were instructed to spill 4.3 TWh of hydro due to surplus baseload generation (SBG) conditions over the 2020 year which IESO did not disclose.

**The actual makeup of exported generation is not available as it depends on many factors.

***The average market price referred to as the market price ie; HOEP (hourly Ontario energy price) averaged 1.39 cents/kWh in 2020.

The Ontario Liberal Electricity Legacy is Complicated

The Cost of Subsidizing Green Energy Contracts for Industrial and Large Commercial Ratepayers came from the Financial Accountability Office (FAO) of Ontario in a report issued March 18, 2021!  What it states is the upcoming three years (2021-2023) will burden taxpayers with a cost of $2.8 billion.

My take on that “burden” was an estimate of $3.8 billion in an article posted November 9, 2020 just days after the Provincial budget was released announcing the subsidy. I did note, at that time, my estimate was a “back of the envelope” calculation and several events have occurred since then affecting the cost estimates.  The FAO’s forecast is the cost is 2.2 times what the budget estimated it was going to be whereas my estimate was 2.9 times the budget number.

The FAO report goes into further detail suggesting out to 2040 “the renewable generation subsidy program will cost the Province a net total of $15.2 billion.” The latter is referenced in the FAO report as the “Net cost to the Province” as the report stated; if the current subsidy program remained in effect through to 2040 for all segments of electricity consumers the total cost would have been $38.6 billion plus a loss of $1.3 billion in HST.  What the recent amendments to the Ontario Electricity Rebate (OER) program did was reduce the “OER discount provided to residential, farm and small business ratepayers”, which resulted in a reduction of $24.7 billion in estimated costs over the 20 years.

No doubt many Ontario ratepayers will recall Ontario’s Auditor General, Bonnie Lysyk, in 2015 issued a report castigating the Ontario Liberal Party stating; “From 2006 to 2014, the electricity portion of the hydro bills of residential and small-business consumers increased by 70%. In particular, the Global Adjustment fees, covering the excess payments to generators over the market price, cost consumers $37 billion during that period, and are projected to cost another $133 billion from 2015 to 2032.”

That report from the AG was the bedrock used by the Ford led Ontario Conservative Party to make it a major issue during the leadup to the last provincial election and at that time they promised to reduce electricity rates by 12%.  We ratepayers are still waiting for that to happen!  With the advent of the relief provided by the province as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic our rates were reduced but the announcement from the OEB (Ontario Energy Board) on February 22, 2021 stated; “residential and small business customers will resume paying Time-of-Use (TOU) and Tiered pricing under the Regulated Price Plan (RPP) at prices that were set by the Ontario Energy Board (OEB) on December 15, 2020.”  To put the foregoing in context a look at TOU rates before the Ford government were elected and comparing them to those announced by the OEB discloses the 12% promise is a distant memory as we see the percentage increases in all three categories has jumped by a large multiple of the inflation rate as the following depicts!

Time of Use    March 2018    March 2021    % Increase
Off-peak              6.5/kWh            8.5/kWh           30.7%
Mid-peak            9.5/kWh           11.9/kWh          25.2%   
On-peak             13.2/kWh          17.6/kWh           31.8%       

The difference between then and now is simply that back then the Wynne led government was using taxpayer monies to provide relief via the “Fair Hydro Plan” which subsidized rates by 29% (based on my bill) whereas the Ford government is now using taxpayer dollars to provide a subsidy of almost 98% (based on my bill).  It’s simply a case of incurring taxpayer debt to subsidize ratepayers.  Instead of taking money from our after-tax pocket they are incurring it for future taxpayers to pay.

In an interview back in March 2020 Premier Ford in response to the question about why he hadn’t achieved the 12% reduction in electricity rates went on and used the phrase “it’s extremely complicated”.  That phase is very similar to the phrases used by former energy ministers such as Bob Chiarelli and Glen Thibeault as well as the current leader of the Ontario Liberal Party, Steven Del Duca. 

What is obvious from the foregoing is the time has arrived for someone/anyone with basic common sense be appointed to the Ministry and make a serious effort to uncomplicate it!

Perhaps it’s simply a pipe dream!

CanREA loves Prime Minister Trudeau’s Liberal Government and its plans to destroy Canada’s economy

The Canadian Renewable Energy Association exhibited their love affair with the Justin Trudeau led Liberal Government the same day the tax and spend 79 page document; “A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT AND A HEALTHY ECONOMY” was released! 

Robert Hornung, President and CEO of CanREA, was truly excited judging from his quotes in their press release. He stated; “CanREA is pleased to see a commitment of $964 million over four years to support renewable power generation and grid modernization. We look forward to working with the Federal Government to flesh out the details of these initiatives in the weeks ahead.”  Hornung was pleased with the promise of almost one billion dollars from us taxpayers on top of what they get from the various provinces where wind turbines, solar panels, and batteries, will be added to the electricity grids and ratepayers will pay up for their subsidized costs. We are already doing it in Ontario!

Another quote referenced CanREA’s members from the wind, solar and energy storage segments: “We were also pleased to see a commitment of $300 million to support remote communities in moving away from polluting and expensive diesel generation, believing as we do that wind, solar and energy storage technologies can play an important role in meeting that objective.” The document released by Minister Wilkinson, carried the following message which pleased Hornung as it seemed directed at CanREA’s members: “There are also job and economic growth opportunities through the entire value chain of clean electricity – from mining of key minerals including copper, nickel and lithium, through designing and manufacturing of wind turbines, solar panels, and batteries, to installation and export.”  To the best of this writer’s knowledge none of CanREA’s members manufacture those products in Canada as they are generally imported from China and elsewhere! Another failed effort Ontarians were promised!

It is truly amazing how much of the world’s population has bought into the concept of believing wind and solar coupled with battery storage can supply reliable emissions free power!  The Catherine McKenna Federal led entity “Canada Infrastructure Bank”, also jumped in offering financing for batteries to store intermittent wind and solar generation. 

While the Trudeau led government seems intent on destroying Canada’s success by pushing our exit from fossil fuels, other countries like China and India are adding coal plants at a heavy pace as a recent report in Statista notes: “The global installed coal power generation capacity is projected to see a net increase over the next decades and predicted to reach 2.2 terawatts in 2050. Worldwide, about 180 gigawatts of new coal capacity was under construction in 2020, with a further 300 gigawatts in various stages of planning.”

Should one spend some time reviewing the “effective capacity” of various generation sources coal is ranked second to natural gas in the fossil fuel sector, at approximately 50%, whereas combined cycle gas plants are close to 60%. 

If one then examines industrial wind turbines, via a review of IESO’s 2020 APO (Annual Planning Outlook) one is shocked to see its’ “effective capacity” is estimated at 17.4% during Ontario’s winter months and a miserly 3.2% during summer months.

What “effective capacity” means is industrial wind during the summer months in Ontario will only deliver generated power when it is needed 3.2% of the time! As an example, if its rated capacity is 100 MW it can only be counted on to deliver an average of 3.2 MWh in a few of the hours!  That’s a fail!

To put the foregoing in perspective, Ontario would need 1700 MW of wind capacity to “hopefully” deliver what a 100 MW coal generation plant could deliver and need even more if they were replacing a 100 MW gas plant. 

Now try to imagine how many industrial wind turbines would be required to generate the 24,000 MWh needed in Ontario on a hot peak demand day during July or August!  The landscape in Ontario would be totally dominated by IWT but that presumably, would please the “climate change” advocates. 

The time has come for our politicians to face reality and recognize wind, solar and battery storage will not only destroy the Canadian economy, but also, kill birds, bats, insects, harm people’s health and in the process ruin our beautiful landscapes!

Stop this madness!

No Need for Wind and Solar in Ontario—2020 Shows Why

The IESO (Independent Electricity System Operator) recently released data, referenced as the “2020 Year in Review” and surprise, surprise, Ontario’s consumption dropped by 2.1% to 132.2 TWh (terawatt hours) which is the 2nd lowest since 1988.  The pandemic lockdowns worked!

Nuclear generation last year was 87.8 TWh and hydro 36.9 TWh so just those two sources of clean non-emission energy provided 124.7 TWh or 94.3% of total grid demand! 

Additionally, the “review” indicates nuclear steamed off 101 GW.  While the review doesn’t tell us how much hydro was spilled a quick review of OPG’s 3rd Quarter Financial Report indicates to that point they had spilled 3.1 TWh due to surplus baseload conditions (SBG).  If one assumes an additional 1 TWh was spilled in the 4th Quarter that 4.1 TWh plus the .1 TWh of steamed off nuclear means those two energy sources could have supplied 128.9 TWh or 97.5% of grid demand consumption.  Hydro and nuclear represent only 59% of Ontario’s grid connected capacity but together they delivered 97.5% of emission free energy.  The other capacity sources of wind, solar, biomass and gas representing 41% of grid connected generation supplied the other 2.5%.  Something to bear in mind, particularly if you are the Minister of Energy!

If one added 3.3 TWh of gas generation to nuclear and hydro generation we would have had all we ratepayers needed to meet 2020 demand.

Ah, but the foregoing is not how it works in Ontario!  Remember, the former McGuinty led Liberal government gave wind and solar generators those lucrative contracts and “first to the grid” rights. The year 2020 was no different than prior years as they again demonstrated their ability to generate power when it’s not needed.  In 2020 as wind, solar and biomass (also renewable generation) collectively generated 12.9 TWh they also curtailed 2.621 TWh which we ratepayers paid for. Coincidently, we also exported 20.377 TWh to our neighbours in NY, Michigan, etc.  Our neighbours paid pennies for those TWh as the average HOEP (hourly Ontario energy price) in 2020 was the lowest ever at 1.39 cents a kWh. Our net exports (exports minus imports) in 2020 were 15.199 TWh.  Those “net exports” were remarkably close to the 14.521 TWh of renewable generation (including curtailment) demonstrating their intermittent and unreliable nature.  

Those “net exports” as outlined earlier this month by Scott Luft in 2020 added $1.8 billion to the total cost of generation. To put that in context it added a cost of 1.36 cents to each and every kWh Ontario ratepayers (households, small, medium sized and large businesses) consumed in 2020.  The cost to the average household consuming 9,000 kWh annually was an extra $122.40 plus tax just for electricity consumed and before charges for transmission delivery.

Because of the intermittent and unreliable nature of wind and solar Ontario’s gas generators actually produced 9.7 TWh in 2020. Wind generation fails to deliver power during hot days in the summer or cold crisp winter days. Solar’s faulty delivery occurs on cloudy days or late fall and winter when the sun only shines for a few hours. For those reasons those gas plants are needed to fill the void due to the failure of wind and solar generation!

Looking Back

Looking back to 2009, the year the GEA was implemented, we see Ontario consumed 139 TWh and the cost of grid connected generation was about $8.6 billion.  For 2020 as noted, consumption fell to 132.2 TWh while our cost of that grid connection generation jumped to almost $18 billion for an increase of 109% or $9.4 billion.

The time has arrived to recognize wind and solar generation connected to Ontario’s IESO managed grid only serves to drive costs up!  Our politicians should act now to stop the waste!

Battery Storage will Save Ontario Ratepayers as Much as $760 million and Hell is about to Freeze Over

It appears, those who monetarily benefited from the GEA imposed on Ontario’s ratepayers by the McGuinty led Ontario Liberal Party in 2009 are back seeking more ratepayer dollars. 

NRStor and Six Nations of the Grand River Development Corporation (SNGRDC) have teamed up in an effort to obtain a contract from IESO. The latter, SNGRDC already have a significant portfolio of investments in 13 wind and solar projects including the 230 MW Niagara Regional Wind Farm. NRStor was founded by Annette Verschuren, former CEO of Home Depot and NRStor’s claim to fame is “energy storage” and as such they received several contracts from the OPA (absorbed by IESO) under the GEA. A former senior executive of IESO, Kim Warren is one of the three members of their Board of Directors and he presumably still has some pull within IESO.

It should be obvious that both SNGRDC and NRStor have benefited greatly from the contracts they received from the IESO to the detriment of Ontario’s households and businesses of all sizes and sectors—but they want more!

NRStor appear to be a Tesla agent in Canada and it is probable the project currently in the planning stages will use Tesla’s “Megapack” battery storage for the jointly owned “Oneida Energy Storage Project” (OES) which is a proposed 250MW/1000MWh storage facility.

Driving up Electricity Costs with our Tax Dollars

The OES is not the only “energy storage” project in the early stages as TC Energy, who sold their Ontario gas plants to OPG last year are also in the process of seeking a contract to create a “pumped storage” 1000 MW unit in Meaford, Ontario using water from Georgian Bay. Needless to say, the locals in and around the chosen site are fighting hard to preserve the local landscape and the affected area of Georgian Bay! In TC Energy’s case one should suspect they are trying desperately to obtain “carbon credits” to help offset the upcoming rising costs of both the “carbon tax” and the “clean fuel standard” (another tax) the Justin Trudeau Government has undertaken.  Those taxes may make TC uncompetitive with other global energy companies.

The opportunity to make money in the “OES” case is twofold in that they will purchase power when the HOEP (hourly Ontario energy price) is low and sell it back either at a contracted price or when the HOEP is higher during high demand hours. One assumes they also want “carbon credits” they can sell to others for additional revenue.

Insofar as the two partners of the OES are concerned it looks to be simply a means to obtain more ratepayer dollars! In NRStor’s case the benefit will accrue to their new New York owners, Blackstone Energy Partners who purchased them in the spring of 2020 and is itself a subsidiary of Blackstone with $571 billion in assets under management.

 Examining the Project Overview suggests in addition to the promise to save us ratepayers $760 million the energy storage project will also result in a “4.1 Million tonne reduction in CO2”.  Not sure how buying surplus energy in Ontario that is basically emissions free will save those 4.1 million tonnes but if they say it’s a perfect solution, we should suspect both politicians and public bureaucrats will be swayed by those claims.  One wonders if the politicians and bureaucrats recall the words of George Smitherman, former Ontario Minister of Energy when he told us the GEA would only raise electricity rates by 1% and it would create 50,000 jobs! His claims were praised by many ENGO at that time.  Ontario’s ratepayers are well aware neither promise came to pass!

It is evident already that politicians and bureaucrats are excited about the OES project. Catherine McKenna, Minister of Infrastructure and Communities had the CIB (Canada Infrastructure Bank) sign an MOU with OES and shouted out:   “Renewable energy projects in partnership with Indigenous communities – like the Oneida Energy Storage project with the CIB, Six Nations of the Grand River Development Corporation and NRStor – are a great example of how our economy will grow in the future and how forward-looking investments can help Canadians achieve their economic and environmental goals,” One should assume the Minister and the bureaucrats at the CIB did not bother to determine the emissions required to manufacture the batteries nor the cost of recycling them!

It also appears from the “Project Review” that perhaps some politicians and bureaucrats in Ontario have also endorsed the project as Greg Rickford, Minister of Energy, Northern Development and Mines, Minister of Indigenous Affairs issued the following statement: “Ontario is uniquely positioned to take advantage of energy storage solutions and I congratulate the Six Nations of the Grand River Development Corporation, NRStor and the Canadian Infrastructure Bank on this important project milestone today.” To top that off IESO receives many laudatory mentions in the OES review suggesting their plan to secure a contract will be an easy one with the help of Kim Warren’s inside knowledge. 

For some reason the review uses 2017 data which is now quite dated.  It also notes; “Ontario’s Auditor General has confirmed using forecast data from the IESO that the province is expected to continue to experience on average 2.8 TWh of Surplus Baseload Generation (SBG) per year from 2022-2032”. Bearing the foregoing in mind, one wonders why adding storage of that surplus, storing it for several hours and then selling it back at a price higher than purchased will somehow save us overburdened ratepayers $760 million? Buy low, sell high, appears to represent an additional cost to ratepayers while rewarding OES!

The OES appears to be simply another Trojan Horse* that will serve to further undermine the Ontario economy!

* The Trojan Horse is a story from the Trojan War about the subterfuge the Greeks used to enter the independent city of Troy and win the war.

Hydro One and other Interesting Observations

Just a short while ago (November 6, 2020) Hydro One released their third quarter results and comprehensive income was up 20.3% or $50 million jumping from $246 million to $296 million.  Results for their first nine months of 2020 are way up from $584 million to $1.633 billion or 179.6% and include a one-time “tax recovery” of $812 million. The latter one-time gain relates to the “privatization” of Hydro One when the Wynne led Liberal government sold off 47% of Hydro One.  As a result of the privatization, the OEB calculated they owed the Province taxes that had been deferred under various rate applications they had ruled on in the past.  The newly privatized Hydro One decided to appeal the OEB’s ruling to the Ontario Divisional Court (ODC) and were successful, so in the 2nd Quarter of their current year they recovered $812 million of taxes from the Province.  Those monies will now ensure shareholders will receive their dividend payments and as the Province is a 53% shareholder, they will get a portion of it but Ontario’s ratepayers and taxpayers will pay the full price! 

The ratepayer/taxpayer money goes round and round without any benefit to those who actually were obliged to reach into their wallets to pay bureaucrats, lawyers and Hydro One employees involved!  It is ironic the OEBs Year-Book of Distributors for the 2019-year, record Hydro One’s ROE (Return on Equity) as 15.88%, well above the level the OEB set (9%).  The Year-Book also reports the “average” CoP (Cost of Power) or “Per Total kWh Delivered” was 0.11 cents whereas for Hydro One it was reported as only 0.09 cents/kWh.  If one uses the amounts disclosed ($3.111 billion divided by 27,536 MWh) in Hydro One’s 2019 Financial Statement the CoP works out to 0.11 cents/kWh! The same calculation for the recent third quarter report from Hydro One indicates the CoP for the quarter was 0.13.9 cents/kWh. One should wonder whose data is correct? 

Your Hydro One bill if in a low or medium density area

For residential ratepayers who are Hydro One customers, labelled as either “low” or “medium” density, Hydro One’s paper bills claim, in a box headed; “What do I need to know?”, since December 2019 may have noticed the box shows “Total Ontario Support on this bill is $XXX.XX”.  That amount is consistently much higher (ours was 158%) than the amount on the bill referenced as the “Ontario Electricity Rebate”! When queried by telephone and e-mail Hydro One’s billing department were unable to explain the difference until the questions raised went up the line to a “customer advocate”.  The explanations provided referenced, “regulations” as far back as 1998 and claimed the credits were included in the delivery line. When I added the reputed “Total Ontario Support” to the “actual” billed amount and calculated the total cost per kWh (kilowatt hour) it was a bit shocking. It was 32.2 cents/kWh!  Was Hydro One’s intent to seek kudos from their ratepaying customers or do they think the claim would be beneficial when they sought further rate increases from the OEB?

CanREA’s reaction to the Ontario 2020 budget

The new merged iteration of the Canadian wind and solar associations is now known as CanREA and they responded to comments on Ontario’s 2020 budget; but not by admitting electricity costs had risen because of above market contracts handed to their members under the GEA!  What they suggested was costs increased “over the past decade as a result of investments made in much-needed infrastructure like transmission and new generation.”  As Ontario ratepayers know, those investments were in wind and solar contracts which drove up electricity costs and those generation sources were all backed up by gas plant contracted generation due to the unreliable and intermittent nature of wind and solar.  A quote from Robert Hornung CEO of CanREA stated: “We are committed to working with the government to ensure that affordability remains a key consideration in the development of a reliable, low cost and emissions-free electricity system that benefits all Ontarians.” That statement failed to acknowledge why Ontario’s electricity costs had ballooned but pushed the lie, wind and solar coupled with storage are “reliable, low cost and emissions-free”!  As disclosed in the documentary Planet of the Humans wind and solar generation are anything but emissions-free! 

Is IESO endorsing more wind and solar generation

Shortly after the Ontario budget was issued and CanREA had issued the foregoing news release they held a Renewable Energy Forum which included presenters including (amongst the 400 participants) the Federal Minister of Natural Resources, Seamus O’Regan who stated; “Our abundant sources of renewable energy will power our clean growth future. We will continue to use them to reduce emissions, create jobs and grow our economies,”. O’Regan is apparently oblivious of the fact he was repeating the rhetoric Ontario voters and ratepayers were told by other Liberals such as former Premiers of Ontario, Dalton McGuinty and Kathleen Wynne.  Ontario ratepayers know how that turned out! The result was the Ontario Liberal Party were decimated in the last election as electricity rates skyrocketed! Another presenter at the Forum turned out to be the current acting President of IESO, Terry Young.  IESO have responsibility for managing the electricity grid as well as recommending to the Ford led Conservative Government how to keep our grid stable by choosing appropriate generation sources.  Does his attendance signal what recommendations IESO will make is a question we should ask?

Has the Ford led Ontario Government submitted to the FEDS “Build Back Better” Green Targets?                                        

A recent Ontario Superior Court Decision by Justice Carole J. Brown was touted by Ecojustice as a huge victory over the Ford Government. Their press release noted; “Seven young Ontarians have prevailed over the provincial government’s attempt to shut down a lawsuit asserting Charter rights life, liberty, and security of the person.” The press release went on to say: “Our clients say Ontario’s 2030 target of reducing greenhouse gas emissions to 30 per cent below 2005 levels is inadequate, unconstitutional, and must be struck down.”

What was striking when reviewing Justice Brown’s decision was the following:”[7] Global warming is causing climate change and its associated impacts. The Court of Appeal accepted that “uncontested evidence” shows that climate change is causing or exacerbating: increased frequency and severity of extreme weather events (including droughts, floods, wildfires, and heat waves); degradation of soil and water resources; thawing of permafrost; rising sea levels; ocean acidification; decreased agricultural productivity and famine; species loss and extinction; and expansion of the ranges of life-threatening vector-borne diseases, such as Lyme disease and West Nile virus: Carbon Pricing Reference,

The question becomes; why did the Attorney General’s office not contest the evidence by calling on real experts with real facts to counter what Ecojustice and those “seven young Ontarians” presented. Have they capitulated to Prime Minister Trudeau and his minions? There are many true scientists who could have easily presented real information to refute the claims but for some reason the Ford led government didn’t call on them to do so!

We Ontarians should be concerned the Ford led Government may have become “Liberal Lite”!